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Interpretation of Vision - A King is Crowned
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Reply - Prophecy/Visions/Interpretations
Dear Not-worried-any-more
You put a smile on my face with your new name. Thank you for your pleasant reply. Like you I take the work of The Lord quite seriously and sometimes we have impulsive reactions that we regret. I accept your apology.
I will start writing interpretations and posting them to this website as requested.
Even if it encourages only one person to start praying – within the will of The Lord - for the people of this country – then it will be worthwhile doing it.
Regards
Hugo
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Prophecy in SA
Dear Theresa
Thank you for your words of encouragement. I have learned that sometimes I need to be a little thick skinned when bringing visions and prophecy to the world. I am just the instrument. The Lord will say what He wants to say. My joy is in serving The Lord and bringing His word to those that will listen. Even if they won’t listen The Lord will still speak and warn before He acts (Amos 3:7) – my work is to bring His word – whether they listen or not (Ezekiel 3:17-21).
Shalom
Hugo
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Please supply more details on Stadium event in Durban on 11 ApriCarl Lupke (not verified)
Hi Ivan
Hallelujah. God sure has opened up some doors. Is it possible that we can make an official invitation to Churches in Durban to invite them? If there is one, could you please post it on the website, so that we can distribute to local fellowships, for confirmation of attendence.
Could you please supply specific time scheduled etc. Please also confirm that the event is for Christians and not a multi-faith event?? As light cannot fellowship with darkness. We don't want people saying that serving God is a way of compromise and we must accept all religions. Our calling is to minister the Gospel of the Kingdom. Of reconciliation & Love. God will not share His Glory.
Thanks & God Bless
Carl
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Want to attend MMC2010Charl Botha (not verified)
I am 57, restricted to walking short distances due to heart and lung problems. I live in Cape Town and would love to attend. I don't have transport or funds. I look after myself, i just cann't run around as I should at my age. I am sold out to God and would love to come. The reason for this email, you never know what can happen if you ask. I am praying that God will make a way for me to attend. God bless you all
Regards
Charl
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RE: Testing Prophecy-Thanks so much, apologies and a requestWorried (not verified)
Hugo,
Thanks for you explanation and I have to admit that I am very relieved with your response. ( and are much at peace now, since it is clear that you are not using the platform to train yourself but want to share God's clear message that HE wants to deliver through you.). I believe it is because there is not really formal publishing guidelines for the prophetic yet and therefore this confusion.(My sincere apologies for airing my frustration in a not very dignified way and in so doing could discourage you from doing what you are called todo)
I love Theresa's comment since it confirms my belief that one of the biggest problems in the Body of Christ is Pastoring the Prophetic (Where she was having a positive experience through her overseer). I also believe that, this is one of the functions here, and that brings me to the sweet spot, where you can help and serve to do both.
My request: What is the possibility that you publish the available interpretations of you public visions here with the vision. To me it would be the ideal since firstly it would give much leading to other, in-training-prophetic people, what type of visions one can receive and secondly showing how it is interpreted by a more experienced Prophet.
What you experienced as lack of interest here, was experienced by at least me, that there a confusing message send from God through you. ( each person could interpret each vision through their own worldview very differently)
I believe the nature of this site is more a type of a quality knowledge base for the next generations, than it is a typical forum or chatroom, since as you experience shows, it is slow moving. ( It is also relational and the way to build trusting loving relationships is the HARD, sometimes the confronting, way at this particular community)
The interpretations on the visions about the boere volk and the civil war are much needed, at least by me, since it can confirms my own searches for clarity from the Lord ( I am a boertjie by birth.)
Have a blessed day and again my apologies.
By
Not-worried-any-more.
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Testing of prophecyTheresa (not verified)
Dear Hugo,
I have just been introduced to this site and it is with such saddness that I read about the negativity towards prophecy and visions. I have been blessed to have been under the covering of a very annointed man of God for a number of years and also a man who operates in the office of the prophet. I have seen and learnt that truly a prophet is not recognised in his own town and unfortunately due to the religous spirit that has ruled the churches in SA for so many years we are still so sceptical when it comes to prophecy! Of course, there are the false prophets and the Word clearly tells us that in the end times so many false prophets will pop up and we are already starting to see them! however, my brother take courage in the fact that you know that you know that you know. I went through a season a few years ago where God would give me so many words for this nation and I wrote them down and only now do I start seeing portions of that coming to fruition. I do however believe that there will be a major cleansing in this nation of the religous spirit that would like to silence the prophet/seer..Keep being obedient to what God tells you to do and let each man, including me and you, be accountable before God and God alone. Be blessed.
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Testing Prophecy
Dear Worried
Thank you for your comprehensive and loving comments. I would like to think that one of the reasons for the existence of this website is to encourage debate and so I appreciate your comments and would like to reply to them as follows:
I do receive many visions from The Lord on a daily basis and as you say most of these are for my own personal benefit and communication with The Lord. However some of these are to be released to the public and I do that out of love and obedience and after confirmation from The Lord.
I have strong interpretations for most of these visions since The Lord prepares me well for the task at hand however I am sad to report that the audience on this website do not seem that interested. In the six weeks or so since I have started posting prophecy and visions I have only really had one request for interpretation – the one from anonymous above – which I have now explained.
I have also had one request as to the symbol of grape juice in the prophecy to the Boer Nation – The Lord has given me an extended revelation about this specific prophecy and the accompanying vision but I have not posted it here due to a lack of interest. So just because it isn’t on this website does not mean that it doesn’t exist. I have also been taught by The Lord to walk away from judgement and thus you will find that I will not defend my visions and prophecy – “the battle belongs to God”
I agree with you that visions are usually given within the frame of reference and exposure of the seer and to this effect I find it amazing how The Lord will expose me to certain topics for a period of time before I start receiving visions or prophecy about it. This assists with the recognising of symbols and their various interpretations.
There are however many examples in The Bible of visions and prophecy that were not understood when received and often were only recognised as prophecy after its fulfilment. I would like to quote from The Prophets Handbook by Paula A. Price, p.228: “The seer...Can often see and not be able to say, or sometimes only describe, what is seen” (for the uninformed a SEER is a type of prophet, the Hebrew word used in The Bible is Hozeh, see: 2 Sam. 24:11 and 1 CH. 29:29)
I agree with you that most prophetic words are conditional but there are examples in The Bible where they are not. For example Ahab only received mercy after he humbled himself – these things still had to come over his family but only after his death. (1 Kings 21:17-29)
If I receive prophecy from The Lord about a war and The Lord does not specifically state that I should tell them about conditions then I cannot add these conditions myself. I know that we serve a merciful God, but He is also a just God – that is something we should never lose sight of.
“The fundamental aim of any prophecy from God will not deviate from the nature of the Lord. When a nation sins against Him, He judges it. When His children do the same, He judges and chastens them that they may not be destroyed with the world. God forgives sin, but He has been shown throughout scripture to still deal, in His own way, with its actual deeds. (See Psalm 99:8; 89:24-37, 2 Samuel 7:12-16 and Hebrews 12:5-6.” – Paula A. Price
On the topic of testing prophets and prophecy I have to say that this is one area we cannot neglect or else we will simply be deceived. You will hear Christians say things like: “my spirit bears witness with your prophecy” (or not). My question is whether you are certain that your spirit is submitted to The Spirit of The Lord. It is easy for emotions, personal preferences, viewpoints, belief systems and even sin to interfere.
You could write a whole book on the teaching of how to recognise false prophecy. The question is how do you test it on the internet? A serious false prophet could put together a false resume that will fool many with testimonies and proof that astounds you. It will be really difficult to verify any of his claims without human interaction – and how many people will actually take the trouble to do this and how will we know if they are qualified to do this. I am sure you can see the potential problems with this.
The only foolproof test that I can see is from Deuteronomy 18:22 – “When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken,...”
This would mean that the prophet would require an opportunity to bring his visions and prophecy to be tested. If they are consistently fulfilled then we will know that the prophet spoke what The Lord commanded him to speak. I am grateful to the editor/webmaster of this website for allowing me to publish the visions and prophecy that I receive from The Lord.
My question is when would you like to start the stoning? And who will decide how much is enough time? And who will do the stoning? Maybe this scripture has something to do with it: “And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.” - 1 Corinthians 14:32.
Satan loves to see the prophets of The Lord being discouraged and silenced. I have peace though in knowing that The Lord has called me to be His prophet and that He will establish my reputation and that through His grace, mercy and love I will be able to fulfill my calling.
May everything we say, think and do be for the honor and glory of our Lord and Teacher, Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
Shalom
Hugo
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Reply to Anonymous - The Idolatry of Soccer
Dear Anonymous
This vision is not about a specific stadium. This vision and the one I received on 25 January 2010, is about Idolatry – it is about the idolatry of soccer.
The first vision is an announcement from The Lord that He will be judging this idolatry.
In the second vision He gives us more detail as to some of the problems that He has with soccer and its related activities. Some of the issues depicted in this vision are:
· The indulgent spending of billions of rands on entertainment (while there are people starving in this country, millions live in shacks without water, lights or toilet facilities.)
· The fanatic following of the game and its stars, their symbols, clothing, gambling, violence, sexual misconduct and other related behaviour.
· The sexual exploitation of children, that follows the world cup around, and the lack of reporting on this by the popular media.
· The ritual animal slaughters in order to bless the stadiums.
All these things give honour to a god other than Yahweh – we serve a jealous God – how long do you think He will tolerate this?
And yes you are right – we need to be asking:
“what should we do about this?”
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Many are called, but few are chosen
This is the Kingdom Pattern I believe.
Not all the called one's are passing the tests, trails and Character building and therefore are empoerd with the POWER or Annointing of God.- (Chosen)
Not all pass the test to carry Gods Glory through their ministry...
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So, Whose Test Is This? For Haiti or for US as Christians
Just saw this challenge and thought of sharing it.
So, Whose Test Is This?
By Francis Frangipane
(En Español)I think most of us do not grasp the degree of suffering and devastation that has hit Haiti. We think because the front-page news about Haiti has diminished that Haiti's need has also diminished, but it has not. The urgency of people being buried alive has been replaced with the urgency of a million and a half people without homes or shelter.
To put this disaster into perspective, recall the terrifying Sumatran tsunami that killed 230,000 people in December 2004. Eighteen nations were affected. In contrast, the Haitian earthquake killed approximately the same number of people as the Asian tsunami, but the death toll was focused primarily in one city in the most impoverished nation in the western hemisphere! Nearly everyone in Port-au-Prince has lost a family member, friends or neighbors. Many have lost several loved ones. Approximately one-fourth of the city died. The collective burden upon the Haitian people is without parallel.
Let Compassion Grow
Some people familiar with Haiti's worship of elemental spirits (in voodoo) have concluded Haiti has only itself to blame for its catastrophe. This is a convenient analysis. For once we determine that this disaster is the fault of its victims, an icy veneer begins to form over our heart. We feel detached from their suffering, delivered from the discomforting demands of mercy.But God isn't looking at who's responsible as much as who is able to respond in the compassion of Christ. And this isn't so much about God testing Haiti as much as He is testing us, His church. How we respond, how we give, how we pray or sacrifice to see this nation redeemed has the full attention of the Lord's eyes. He has not blessed us with so much so we can hoard our wealth, but so we can give to help others.
This is our test. God has opened wide doors to minister in Haiti. Anyone who has wanted an opportunity to serve and make a difference, here is your chance. There is no competition here, no "voodoo aid agencies" helping the hungry or homeless in Haiti, no Muslim outreaches lending a hand. Those helping are either from secular agencies sent from a couple dozen nations or they are members of hundreds of Christian outreaches. Our friends on the ground are feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, and giving shelter to the homeless - and they are speaking the word of God to the newly saved Haitians.
The people in Haiti could not be more desperate or more open to the love of Christ. Remember Jesus' words: "The harvest is plentiful, but the laborers are few" (Luke 10:2). He said to pray for the laborers to be sent out, and this is my daily prayer, "Lord of the Harvest, send forth Your anointed laborers, those whom You've raised up, those who simply want to show the love of Jesus, who know in their hearts that You have put Your compassion in their hearts."
I'm going to keep asking you to remember Haiti in prayer. You will continue to hear me urging Christians to take a week or two, or a year, and get involved whenever possible in Haiti's renewal. I'm going to not stop asking pastors to send teams to serve the needs in Haiti and to also go there themselves. Of course, let us continue giving to Christian aid organizations that are already functioning on the ground in Haiti, and let us give sacrificially and with vision.
Haiti is our test. How we respond to Haiti's need, to its outstretched hands, will be a determining factor concerning how God will respond to our outstretched hands in our time of need. Yes, miracles and revivals are breaking out, as we mentioned last week, and certainly God has a better future planned for the people of Haiti. But the test we must be concerned about isn't for the Haitians; God is testing us.
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Re: Help ek weet nie hoe om my seun te help
Hi
Jy is welkom om met my kontak te maak dan kan ons bietjie gesels. swanepoelmarnus [at] hotmail [dot] com
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Marnus
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Interpretation of Dreams & Visions:Also have reservationsWorried (not verified)
Publishing Visions as we are seeing lately on the website is not that positive from my understanding of the prophetic.
Firstly it is about order and maturity. e.g.
- Like the Speaking in tungues is mainly for the benefit of the person personally, but when it is done in public God's word is clear that there must be an interpretation as well, or it is out of order and to be stopped.
- Likewise most dreams and visions is on a personal note and for that person to pray into. If the Lord is giving the go ahead, clearly, to release it in public, there should be not much confusion about the (1) authenticity and then (2) the interpretation of the word. In other words the message God want to realease in public to HIS church should be clear, without confusion.
- I believe the same if not much more is applicable to visions, since if you move in the seer annointing it is much more powerfull since you can directly ask God during the vision, what it means Also even then it is proven practice on that level, to ask God further to confirn it with a scriptural reference. Most seers even by then, knows that it is of a personal nature and for them to directly pray into or God wants them to do something personally towards it.
- Although the word is clear that we all should be willing to learn and be more open towards the prophetic gift, it is not common to release the testings and possible mistakes in public. Our experience is that the Lord give dreams and visions that can be easlily interpreted by the dreamer or seer since it is given in a spesific environment where the person will be able to interpret it. He will speaking to a scientist in science visions and to a farmer in farming visions. A dream is normally given, bearing in mind what books you have in your house to interpret it with etc.
- It is thus important to both have a clear vision/dream and a accurate interpretation on it.
Secondly: Most if not all prophetic words are conditionally- like Jonah. If there was repentance by Nineveh then the harsh word did not came true. If Jonah said there is definitely going to be destruction to Nineve and it was heard and interpreted that way, then Jonah was out of line with God's charachter and message. So saying there is going to be civil war in Sa .. . .
Thirdly scriptures is clear on how to judge a prophet or a prophetic word: On the fruit of it and the fruit in the life of the prophet. In the old testament if you release a word that did not happen you are supposed to be killed... so public words were rare since your life was on the line... Hugo would relieve much reservation if there is a short into on him and his gift and some friut of it on the site, as part of his blog and then most importantly of persons close to him like the leader to whom he submit or are accountable to to testify that all is in order in his house and that he is prophesying from a "clean fountain" with most words accurate so that the biger body of Christ can take notice-
Normally God first release public words via a prophet(-etic gift) about a family, then maybe about a city. Normally ONLY if you are having and occupying the OFFICE of a prophet, then God release provincial etc words through you..Lastly there is maybe not a biblical or experiental, concern but a practical one. With the draconian restrictions on the media on the soccer tournament this year, they can quite easily bring the site down lawfully... when stadiums etc are part of a negative picture... around the tournament.
So maybe we can see more responsible publications of prophetic messges without making it confusing to some of the readers.
One thing is for sure, that during the last days the prophets will be attacked. So it is important that the prophets also play their role and get their own ducks in a row, in order to edify the Body of Christ with excellence. God speaks every day to most prophets (and his children) but it is not publicly released. I believe there is a place for excersing or learning to sharpen ones prophetic axe, with one's gift, but I am not convinced it is to be done as we see lately.
This was a long reply, and hopefully it can contribute towards some best practices (or guidelines) of publications of prophetic words here.
Quite frankly, we are all in a process and my limited understanding of this vast subject, could also be totally out of line.
We are fighting in the same army so lets us lovingly help each other to bring more glory to the Lord!
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Interpretation of Dreams & VisionsAnonymous (not verified)
Is there anybody out there who is filled with the Spirit of The Living God, who believes that Jesus dies and rose again for the remissions of our sins, that can offer interpretations of Hugo's dreams. We need to effectively strategise against the works of the enemy & intercede for our land. Hugo do you have any clues or understanding on which stadium we are dealing with. We need to take hold of what we need to do as the Body of Christ. Arise for now is the time that the Spirit of God wants to raise the standard, so that we can do what God requires us to do.
Yours in Christ Jesus.
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Internet Access at Mighty Mens Camp sitePeter Rugendyke (not verified)
Hi,
I will be attending the 2010 MMC in April. I am wondering if there is wireless internet access available in the area of the conference. I am hoping to gain access through my laptop and a USB modem. I am travelling from Australia. Are there service providers that provide this sort of access... maybe a prepaid option? Interested to hear what options are available in this area
Thanks in advance
Pete R
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Part of the same Body-Thanks for word on Why we are Lukewarm. .Carl Lupke (not verified)
Thank you Pieter for sharing the undiluted Gospel of Jesus Christ. The Gospel of the Kingdom of God.
I am greatly encouraged.
May God continue to Bless His children with the Knowledge of who He Is and what we should do in obedience to HIS WORD. Don't just Keep the Faith. Spread It.
God Bless
Yours in Christ Jesus
Carl
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Help ek weet nie hoe om my seun te help met sy Gay gevoelens nieMoedelose Moeder (not verified)
Ek weet nie hoe om my seun te help, hy is 22 hy se hy het gevoelens vir mans en probeer dit stop sit maar hy weet nie hoe. Ek het vir hom gese dat hy sy bybel moet gaan lees en vir die Here vra om hom te help want daar staan dat mans nie met mans omgang mag he nie en dat dit sonde en 'n gruwel in die Here se oe is. Hy se almal se dis sonde maar hoekom voel hy dan so. Die Here moet dit seker goed keur as hy so voel. Maar hy voel seergemaak omdat dit so is en weet nie wat om te doen om reg te lewe nie, wil nie in sonde lewe. Gee my raad asb. hoe kan ek hom weer na die mooi in meisies laat kyk en nie na ander mans nie. Hy het baie gay vriende en ek het vir hom gese ek dink dis hoekom hy so voel want hy kom net met hulle in aanraking en dink dat dit reg is. En as ek vir hom se dat hy liewer van hulle af moet wegbly want hoe langer jy met verkeerde dingde te doen het, hoe meer gaan jy later in die selfde probleem sit, is ek verkeerd as ek dit vir hom se. Hy het tot gese ek en hy moet na iemand wat profesioneel is en weet dat dit verkeerd is gaan om te kyk of hulle hom nie kan help. Help asseblief !!!!!
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What the Bible says is more important than your opinion.Carl Lupke (not verified)
I agree with Reaching out ministries who have scriptural backing. The respondents (which I donot call born again Believers) who practice reiki have no scriptural backing, but justy the opinion. If the respondents call themselves Christians, they would not practice non biblical, mysticsmn. Your opinion is from the pits of hell and the father of lies has deceived you from receiving your true healing. Donot abort your salvation for a moment of looking after your flesh. In your flesh dwells no goodness.
Clearly the respondents have not have had an encounter or relatiotionship with Jesus & are not filled with the Holy Spirit who leads us to all understanding. No reiki master is a source of healing. God Is. You need to accept Jesus as your Lord & Saviour & have a relationship with Him. Not a Religion. Religion calls you a christian. Relationship calls you a SON & Daughter of God. I am a child of God & beleive that He sent His one & only SON Jesus who died & rose again on the third for the remission of my sins. By His stripes I am healed.
Question: "What does the Bible say about energy healing / energy medicine?"
Answer: In a world where people are constantly grasping for deeper meaning, deeper spirituality, and a higher purpose, energy healing is one more New Age philosophy which presents itself as very desirable to human beings. Born with sin, we all come into the world with the strong belief that we are the center of the universe—that we are in control of our health, our bodies, our lives, our circumstances, and our destinies. Those who have not turned to God for Truth have no choice but to search for it within themselves.
The practice of energy healing is not in itself a religion, but it is a pathway to one's own spirituality. It leads us on a personal journey that encourages us to focus on ourselves and how our energy is in synch with the energies of the cosmos, the earth, and all other life. Through this, owe can supposedly be taught to heal ourselves by using clairvoyance to “visualize” where the negative energy is in order to determine the cause of the problem, whether it is physical, emotional or spiritual.
Reiki, a widely used energy healing technique, was said to have been developed by a Buddhist monk who used cosmic symbols for healing. Reiki claims to work by removing obstructions to the flow of life force energy throughout the body. These obstructions are allegedly caused by negative thoughts, actions or feelings, which some believe are the fundamental cause of illness. Many even claim that employing this method is the way Jesus obtained His healing power, rather than attributing His power to the fact that He is God.
The use of energy healing encourages us to put our full trust in ourselves and our own bodies, which is a form of worship. For most who participate in energy healing, no recognition is given to the one true God, nor does He receive any praise for healing. The person using these methods of healing has made himself into his own god. Getting involved in energy healing is spiritually dangerous, to say the least.
The Bible tells us that Jesus is the One who came to heal. “Then Jesus said, 'Come to me, all of you who are weary and carry heavy burdens, and I will give you rest'” (Matthew 11:28). God does not want or expect us to help ourselves. He is the source of life, of all that is good and true. Those who refuse to acknowledge Jesus will never come to a place of spiritual healing. “For this people's heart has become calloused; they hardly hear with their ears, and they have closed their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts and turn, and I would heal them” (Matthew 13:15).Open the Eyes for the devil who is a liar is deceiving even the illect & so called educated people.
THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS COMING! PREPARE THE WAY.
A2J
Addicted to Jesus
Carl
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Annette follow the links to join the 6 March crowd
Annette
If you click on the links in the above post it leads you directly to the latest arrangements etc. (Click also on the picture for the buying of tickets)
Thanks for joining this wonderful initiative, on behalf of Christiand in SA.
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I want to join on 6 March at the Union Buildings!Annette Louw (not verified)
I want to join
This vision is about a man, a South African man, that The Lord is raising up to lead this country out of darkness. He is being crowned with wisdom. Wisdom similar to that of Daniel. The statue and the Babylonian soldiers refer to the dream of Nebuchadnezzar that Daniel had to interpret and the later erection of a statue by the king. He is also dressed with the breast plate of righteousness (Eph. 6:14).
This vision refers to the same man found in the following extract of a prophecy brought by Andre Louw in July 2008 – (a link to this prophecy can be found on this website):
"..... and there shall be a season of great change, a great confusion will come upon the government of this nation, as My Spirit begins to change and put the right pieces in place and there shall be a shaking in many men's life's and many men who have thought they were hiding will now be exposed, says The Lord, and I will change this thing and within the eight year period of this prophecy, I will change the government of this nation and I will turn this nation towards Israel once again and I will breathe upon this nation with the blessing, because the sleeping giant is about to be woken up. I'm going to join Methodists and Anglicans and Presbyterians and Charismatics and Evangelicals and I am going to bind them together under the bond of My love and there is coming a people that will once more stand up, for the crime in this nation shall escalate and there shall be rumours of death and rumours of chaos and then suddenly the body of Christ will stand up and bring the answer and it will begin to change the pattern it will change the prisons it will change the hospitals, for I will raise up in this nation a godly man, a godly man that will institute godliness in prisons, godliness in the laws of this country, godliness in our hospitals and My Spirit will breathe upon the people that had been oppressed says The Lord. ....."
This vision also refers to the same man found in the following extract of a prophecy brought by Harold Weitz in March 2009 – (see the website www.littlefalls.co.za):
“..... Even in this land, even in this land, the one with the red shirt, I will sweep him aside, for he has rejected Me. The one with the red shirt, I sweep him aside, for he has come with pride and arrogance. The one with the red shirt – I have spoken,” says the Lord, “He will be the first to fall, for his shirt is the colour of violence. His shirt is the colour of murder. And I will take him aside, because My Church is in this nation and I have a plan in the land of Kush. There are many things that must take place, for it is the hour that I shall have mercy upon this continent. And I will not cause things to happen that are out of control. I will control all things and there shall be a peaceful future for all. I will sweep aside and I will rise up even into the house, even into the place of the highest government. I will raise up one man who will speak and they will say to him, ‘Listen, we want to pay you a salary. We want to pay you. You can work for us and you can work with us,’ but he will refuse, because it is the Lord His God that will sustain him in that hour and provide in his need, even as I had provided in the needs of Elijah. Know this night,” says the Lord, “that when they say, ‘Peace,’ in the North, sudden destruction is coming to the North. Know this day, every hour that ticks by is an hour, is a minute, a second towards what I am speaking of. All things are coming together, for I am ordaining it,” says the Lord. “I will cause the storm, the rage, and I will cause people to group together both in the North. They will group together in this nation also. People will group together and I will raise up My spokesman. People will group together,” says the Lord, “And I will cause a shaking in this land. ....."
This vision also refers to the “new national leader” as seen in the visions of Siener Van Rensburg in the early 1900’s as described in the book about his visions called: “Siener van Rensburg – profeet of waarseer – wat is die waarheid?” – by FH Pretorius. It is available from his website www.sienervanrensburg.co.za
1 Corinthians 14:29 - Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others judge.